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Citace - JaM :
Zabudol si na jednu podstatnu vec ohladom balistiky a tou je raz kanonu. Jednoducha geometricka formulka a to ze 45mm pancier skloneny na 60 stupnov poskytne dvojansobnu ochranu plati len pri projektile s razou 45mm. Rovnaky plat bude mat ovela horsie ochranne vlastnosti ak nan vystrelime projektil s razou 90mm. To je presne aj dovod preco napriklad 122mm dela dokazali prebijat 80mm predny pancier na tankoch Panther, aj ked ich teoreticka prieraznost bola presne na hranici priebojnosti. Zaroven je to aj dovod, preto Tiger I s 88mm delom bol proti T-34 ucinnejsi ako Panther s delom raze 75mm
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Citace - bitaxe :
zajímavé je že polokulové věži nejvíc odpovídá Sherman (jeho věž je aspoň válcová ) který pokud se pamatuji měl čelní pancíř v některých verzích také sklopený na 60°, kupodivu ho obvykle nebývá užíváno jako vzoru
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Citace - Pet :
Řekni mi třeba proč se nikde nedočteš o tom jak byli rusové v prvních letech války zoufalí při střetu s Pz-IV(vzhledem k tomu jak "mizerné" tanky měli).Naopak citátů vyjadřujících se o T-34 nadřazenosti najdeš poměrně dost.
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This table is mostly based on data from the NII-48 (Research Lab #48) in 1942-1945. These data are different from widespread penetration data but values presented here seem to me more accurate and often confirmed by after-trials reports. Unfortunately, the armor quality (hardness etc) usually missed in those reports, so I cannot reveal it's real quality. All what was mentioned is "homogenous hardened armor" or simply "homogenous armor" and nothing more.
The tabular data were theoretical and were calculated by method of ARTKOM (Artillery Committee). This method was accepted in 1939 and its final result depended of two values:
- The Limit of the Through Penetration (LTP) when a whole projectile penetrate the armor and was found behind the armor plate.
- The Breaking Point of the Back Surface (BPBS) when a projectile didn't penetrate the armor but the back surface of the armor plate happened to be damaged.
The armor counted to be penetrated if at least 75% of a projectile's fragments happened to be found behind the armor plate. Most of the Soviet armor penetration tables based on this value. Curiously, but the German way of calculation the armor penetration was based on 50% penetration. That's why the Soviet and the German penetration values are so different.
Also, it is important to understand that realistic penetration values in 1941-1943 was reduced significantly due to low quality ammo.
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