CHE - SIG KE 7

lehký kulomet
     
Název:
Name:
SIG KE 7 SIG KE 7
Originální název:
Original Name:
SIG KE 7
Kategorie:
Category:
kulomet machinegun
Výrobce:
Producer:
Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft (SIG), Švýcarsko
Technické údaje:
Technical Data:
 
Hmotnost nenabité zbraně:
Weight Unloaded:
7,82 kg 17.24 lb
Ráže:
Calibre:
7,0 mm, .303, 7,65, 8 mm
Náboj:
Cartridge:
7x57 mm Brazilský Mauser, 303 British, 7,65x53 mm aggentinský Mauser, 8 x 57 IS
Délka:
Length:
1190 mm 3ft 10,85in
Délka hlavně:
Barrel Length:
600 mm 1ft 11,62in
Kapacita zásobníku:
Magazine Capacity:
25
Výkony:
Performance:
 
Rychlost střelby:
Rate of Fire:
550 ran/min 550 rpm
Úsťová rychlost:
Muzzle Velocity:
825 (7,92x57 mm Mauser) m/s 2706.7 ft/s
Uživatelské státy:
User States:
Poznámka:
Note:
Označení KE se váže k počátečním písmenům jmen tvůrců této zbraně- Pála Dedai Királyho a Gottharda Enda. Kulomet střílí jednotlivými ranami nebo dávkami v závislosti na stlačení spouště. Při plném stisknutí spouště střílí dávkou. Má rychlovýměnnou hlaveň. Zbraň byla exportována zejména do zemí jižní Ameriky, Király pak ještě v roce 1935 představil novou zbraň, která se však do výroby nedostala. -
Zdroje:
Sources:
Archiv autora

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I looked in the archive and own a copy of the factory manuals for this machine gun. The proper designation is TO the 7 without the dashes, see the first page of the manual, the name wasn't Munich, but the "Mitraillier-Gewehr TO 7", the word Munich is the only reference to the place where the factory stood, and not with the official designation of nothing to do (that it so say on various forums doesn't mean anything) and is misleading. I add the cut weapons from the same guide and also method of filling a container using a filler.
In terms of production, the gun was produced serially virtually only in caliber 7,92x57 Mauser. It was a delivery to China, where is facing almost the entire production. production in other rážích(of 7.65) was in small numbers and perhaps only for testing purposes, mainly to South America. I attach also a photo of a chinese soldier with THE 7 (date unknown) in the fighting with the Japanese. Production ran from 1929 and ended up allegedly in 1935. The numbers of pieces produced will not be provided. The machine gun was the standard used with dvounožkou, it was also possible to connect the other leg to the butt for increasing the stability of the (picture I join). In the photo from Karaca is mounted on a tripod in the form of a universal machine gun, but this trjnožka was not part of the standard delivery, the only option and it is a question of how much was used, on the photos I couldn't find it.
One interesting fact is that in the manuals for the gun somewhere indicates the number of rounds in the magazine as a 26, due to the fact that it is a Spanish and French version and clearly not printed, but namnoženou, it is possible that the number applies to the hub 7 mm or of 7.65. But this is just conjecture, but can be the mistake of a scribe.

source: the Above guide
www.forgottenweapons.com
world.guns.ru.
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I've noticed several weapons from the production SIG, that weapons were called Neuhausen and it's probably only in the English title. Is it for the three weapons, so it's probably not a coincidence.

KE-7 is how I'm looking, popular error, on all official materials it is the TO the 7, everywhere else (even on the you placed resources) then TO-7. But thank you for the suggestion, I'll adjust.

Regarding calibre - is it possible to believe, that the vast part of the production was in the caliber of 7.92 mm, but - if the gun was exported to J. America, I would expect most of the production in 7.65 mm, to China in the caliber of 6.8 mm. Although the prospectus talks about the caliber of .303 Brit., anywhere I eviděl another mention. And I am surprised that is primarily done on a swiss charge of 7.5 mm GP11. You don't know anything about this?

Thanks.
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In the prototype, the gun was as far as I know in caliber 7.5 mm, but failed in the choice for the Swiss army, so in that caliber produced. Similar with caliber .303 british, also there was apparently only on pieces made for the test in the Uk (succeeded in them of the CZECHOSLOVAK machine gun ZGB)actually did for China, the commonly used right of 7.92 Mauser, as with military rifles, machine guns. Therefore, this caliber was produced. In different sources are mentions of other rážích (typically 7 mm and 7.65 mm) which corresponds to the mention of exports to South America. The question is how large the numbers were. At that time, i.e. at the beginning of the 30 years even there were competition on selection of machine guns (and our Team was trying, but I think without success), so it could be even just be a small number or individual weapons for the similar exams. I couldn't find any other country besides China, which would be a machine gun introduced (which doesn't mean that it didn't happen).
Marking To 7 it is clear, is it the correct label and that it says otherwise is just plain wrong, the standard should be what has introduced the factory or the army, not what was invented by later people. When it comes to "Neuhausen", it's probably just a business brand for the Uk. It is true that him and SIG it states in the guide that was probably part of the menu for the British. It is possible that in that time SIG, nothing in the GB meant and Neuhausen are better remembered. similar to this is the need to BREN, and there is a place not the manufacturer. In truth, at that time still the swiss guns did not have a big name and so it could just be a marketing move. Anywhere else, this label does not appear (I think contemporary documents, not what's written). Today's expansion is clear, the bulk of the people draws on English documents, and so used the designation for the british. Realistically this thing but it was called according to the factory light machine gun TO 7, i.e. historically Mitraillier-Gewehre TO 7. There are other manuals (some obviously written on a typewriter and copies something like cyklostylem) that repeat the name of the light machine gun in a given language should be Ametralladora in Spanish (it is interesting that on the cover is the name of the French and German, I guess they used a standard plate). So can be regarded as certain that for the company it was TO the 7 with the fact that, with the added and indicate the type of weapons that the customer had easier orientation..
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With this indication it is clear, right is TO the 7.

Caliber 7 mm - which hub do you think it is? I thought it was just about the chinese Mausera, 6,8x57 mm. But it is true that I came across mention of the chinese 7.92 mm machine guns.

Neuhausen in the prospectuses for England is a possible explanation, however, all three weapons that have written on the front pages of the contemporary English-language prospectus, so it must use a presumably normally..
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In terms of caliber 7 mm-I don't know, but if I'm not mistaken, zbrojovka made in this caliber rifles for Brazil (about 100,000 pieces) before buy 15000 pieces (originally for China made) and then another in the same caliber to Colombia. In the caliber of 7.65 for Bolivia (also about 100 000 pieces). China bought mauserovky vz.24 in the standard caliber 7,92 (again, it's about 100 000 pieces). Generally, it is for china most of the supplied weapons in caliber 7.92 mm (sometimes referred to also as 8 mm) I think that the hub 6,8x57 in the supply of power does not appear (I at least haven't come across). What was the correct name of the hub 7 mm I don't know, I just know that for the south american states even in the us made in this caliber, so I guess it was something in the place of the current, maybe the "chinese" muser used there as well. In that caliber they made rifles too "mexican" model, therefore, the mod. 12 (probably according to the original mauserovských designation?). Same caliber, 7 mm, had a shipment to Venezuela. I would consider the caliber of 7 mm, rather a south american, than chinese. In China, moreover, could be given more things, especially the one of the chinese rulers of the weapons ordered. then maybe even the price and availability. It probably if the price of 7.92 was some kind of and conversion to a different caliber would have to be reflected, have chosen just what was available. Similarly, even in the caliber of the weapon was to deliver a turnover (a case of rifles vz. 24) then it was probably better than waiting a year before a given amount of produce. But as I said, in chinese orders I encounter most frequently with a calibre of 7.92 mm, maybe because there ended up many kořistních weapons of WWI.
If it's about Munich, as I wrote, it could be about marketing, armories SIG no one really knew and the name of Munich was probably easier to remember. Maybe it's the SIG the English representatives did not like and, therefore, that in English is the designation (acronym or slang) for the designation of the (signature), or as an abbreviation of it is "Ipecial Interest Group" which is probably in the selection for the army not the best Smile. But this is only for the English customer. I'll ask what the other two weapons are so named?.
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Blinded by China forgot about the brazilian Mausera (7x57 mm brzilský)...Sorry.
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It's obviously some reason (maybe by first weapon) so indicate. It would be quite interesting to know why and how it originated. All the guns are so marked at the time of when the SIG wasn't very well known and famous, but maybe it's all in GB in use today. One of the reasons that I can think of is that maybe it blyo used therefore. that for the British Neuhausen was a familiar place, the city lies right next to the "Rheifall" i.e. the rhine falls, which the british apparently knew (travel was for the middle class frequent and Switzerland it was common destinations). so maybe instead of unknown abbreviations was used in place of where the arms factory was standing (directorate general is there I think to this day). But again this is only conjecture.
The brazilian mauser is probably the correct one. I remember him just over the CZECHOSLOVAK weapons to South America, but the exact designation of the hub I didn't know Smile (so one ambiguity is clarified, still have to find out how many and where they went Smile ).
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