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Citace - bitaxe :
Vaše konstrukce jsou stejně nesmyslné jako ty které se snažíte bořit, jen na rozdíl od nich je nemáte podloženy ničím než vírou. Autor článku je podložil.
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Citace - kapa :
mimochodem lupesku nikdy kritizovaný článek nenazval blábolem a za nesmysly některá tvrzení označil až v reakci na Panzera
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Citace - lupesku :
Ešte pridám spomienky na Staneka priezkumníkom vyslaním z BB ,t.j. priamym účastníkom www.druhasvetova.sk
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Citace - lupesku :
Nuž milý civilisti, to , že vojaci po presune odpočívajú, je bežné, ale každý poddôstojník vie, že kým oni odpočívajú, velitelia musia pracovať, aby mužstvo po odpočinku mohlo bojovať. T,j. pripravovať plány a rozkazy. Dúfam , že to pochopili aj nevojaci.
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Citace - lupesku :
Na úplnom inom smere operuje aj 1. útočný pluk, obidve zoskupenia bojovali od 2.9. spoločne minimalne do 3.9. kedy padol Telgart (KK) Potom sa 4.9. obidve jednotky sťahujú a začínaju plniť hl. úlohu.
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31.augusta bol vydaný signál k odzbrojeniu a zadržaniu Slovenskej armády. Zároveň so Sturm regimentom Pz. AOK1 – (Sturm-Rgt. Pz. AOK 1) sa dala do pohybu aj s predvojom bojovej skupiny Schäfer – (KGr.SCHÄFER), a to s rotou Wischmeyer – (Kp. WISCHMEYER), ktorá sa spojila v Kežmarku so Sturm-Rgt. Pz. AOK 1 a spoločne 1.septembra zaútočila na Poprad. II./Sturm-Rgt.Pz. AOK (Major Schmidt) obsadil Levoču (nem. Leutschau).
2.septembra zaútočil jeden prápor Sturm-Rgt. Pz. AOK na juh a dobil Hranovnicu a Vernár a severne od Telgártu postavil obrannú batériu.
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1.septembra pochodovala bojová KGr.SCHÄFER s práporom Hoyer – (Btl. HOYER) zo Skyszowa do Ropy, kde 2.septemba dostala rozkaz k prelozeniu do Kežmarku, kde sa motorizovane dostali 3.septembra. Tam sa pochod Sturm-Rgt. Pz. AOK 1 na rozkaz HGr.NORDUKRAINE zastavil.
4.septembra KGr.SCHÄFER sa dala na pochod z Popradu západ cez údolie Váhu na Ružomberok (nem.Rosenberg) a to v takomto zložení:
Predvoj: Ustuf. Wischmeyer
1 čata motoriek štábnej roty SS- Rgt 40
protitanková čata s troma 7,5cm Pak 40
protiletecká čata s 2cm Flakom z 14./SS- Rgt.40
Štáb: KGr.SCHÄFER
Zvyšná jednotka: Btl. HOYER
zosilnená čata 2./SS-AA 18
2.roty SS- Rgt.40
1.rota SS- Rgt.39
4./SS- Rgt.39 (obrnená )
Delostrelectvo
13./SS- Rgt.39 (IG- ľahké poľné)
14./SS- Rgt.39 (Flak- protiletecké)
I./SS- Art.Rgt.18
5 kilometrov západne od Popradu narazila KGr.SCHÄFER na odpor povstalcov, ale s pomocou ľahkého a ťažkého poľného delostrelectva a Kp. WISCHMEYER bol rýchlo zdolaný. Slabý odpor bol aj pri križovatke Štrba a večer bola už skupina v Hybe. 4i km západne od Hybe pri odbočke na Brezno, boli povstalci dobre zakopaní, dokonca spravili aj protiútok, ktorý bol odrazený.
5.septembra po kľudnej noci a doplnenia zásob pokračovala skupina ďalej, ale len po Liptovský Hrádok, kde zase s pomocou delostrelectva a za pomoci Kp. RADTKE, ktorá obišla mesto zo severu, mesto dobila. Zvyšní povstalci sa rozutekali do hôr smer Ružomberok. Ďalej zaútočila Kp. RADTKE severne od Liptovského Hrádku a obsadila letisko. Spolu zadržala 3 lietadlá, PHM, dva 3,7cm protitankové kanóny, veľa pechotných zbraní a nákladné autá. Navečer dosiahla skupina Liptovský Mikuláš (nem. St. Nikolaus), kde útočil predvoj Ustuf. Wischmeyera s dvoma poľným delostrelectvom 13./SS- Rgt.39 a obsadili kasárne a zhabali zbrane, náboje a výstrojné súčiastky. Ďalší postup bol večer zastavený - 8km pred Ružomberkom kvôli zátarasám na ceste, silného delostreleckého a mínometného ostreľovania z neďalekej výšiny. Delostrelecký oddiel Hoffmann – (Artillerie Abteilung Hoffmann) a poľné delostrelectvo zaútočilo na výšinu, zároveň aj s pancierovými granátnikmi a výšinu dobili. Zároveň obsadili dedinu Lisková, a tak boli už len 3km pred Ružomberkom.
6.septembra obsadila KGr.SCHÄFER Ružomberok. Delostrelectvo zaujalo postavenie pri dedinke Lisková. O 6.00 hod ráno zaútočila pechota z východu Kp. WISCHMEYER a 1./SS- Rgt.40 pod vedením Ustuf. Gammera. Z juhu zosilnená čata 2./SS-AA 18 - Oscha.Dollnig. O 9.00 hod ráno bolo celé mesto obsadené. Bilancia dňa – 100 zajatcov, 1 zásobovací vlak, 30 nákladných áut a v kasárňach veľa ručných zbraní, nábojov a PHM. S obsadením Ružomberka bola znovu spojená železničná doprava zo západu na východ, z Trenčína, cez Žilinu, Ružomberok do Prešova.
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3.septembra po rozdelení od KGr.SCHÄFER v Poprade sa pohol Sturm-Rgt. Pz. AOK 1 na juh z Telgártu.
4.septembra dobili povstalecké jednotky po odpore 5.pešieho pluku Telgárt. Po doplnení a po prísune ďalšieho delostrelectva 5.peší regiment chcel znova dobiť Telgárt naspäť.
5.a 6.septembra sa začali ťažké boje.
7.septembra sa musel Sturm-Rgt. začať brániť severne od Telgártu.
21.septembra sa musel stiahnuť Sturm-Rgt. ešte pár kilometrov k Vernáru po útoku Slovákov - teraz už 2.taktickej skupine a do 24.septembra, kedy začal všeobecný útok na partizánov, sa už pozície nemenili.
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Order of battle (31 Aug 1944)
XI. Armeekorps
75. Infanterie-Division
254. Infanterie-Division
168. Infanterie-Division
Hungarian 6th Infantry Division
XXIV. Panzerkorps
96. Infanterie-Division
68. Infanterie-Division
208. Infanterie-Division
Order of battle (28 Sep 1944)
XXXXIX. Gebirgs-Armeekorps
101. Jäger-Division
100. Jäger-Division
XI. Armeekorps
168. Infanterie-Division
254. Infanterie-Division
96. Infanterie-Division
97. Jäger-Division
XXIV. Panzerkorps
68. Infanterie-Division
75. Infanterie-Division
24. Panzer-Division
1. Skijäger-Division
357. Infanterie-Division
Order of battle (13 Oct 1944)
XXXXIX. Gebirgs-Armeekorps
101. Jäger-Division
100. Jäger-Division
168. Infanterie-Division
XI. Armeekorps
254. Infanterie-Division
97. Jäger-Division
XXIV. Panzerkorps
68. Infanterie-Division
45. Infanterie-Division
357. Infanterie-Division
8. Panzer-Division
1. Skijäger-Division
253. Infanterie-Division
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Citace - lupesku :
Dav. Mate pravdu, mne sa zase nepáči, keď niekto prepisuje históriu, a k tomu diletantsky. Zoberme si, koľko rozporov a nezrovnalosti je v článku. Nič nie je upresnené ani vysvetlené. A závery, kedy sa robí z dokazatelného víťastva porážka na základe čoho ? Fantázie autora ? Špekulácie " a čo by si kto pomyslel " atd. tiež nepridávaju k dôveryhodnosti. Mne sa zdá, že autor vypracoval "štúdiu" na zakázku s jednym cieľom, a k tomu bez znalosti podkladou. Boh mu odpusť. Takže máme tu nových propagandistou ?
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O Stanekovej bojovej skupine „Jánošík“ spoľahlivo vieme, že sa skladala zo štábu, dvoch peších práporov, kombinovaného delostreleckého oddielu, tankovej roty, roty sprievodných zbraní, roty leteckého dorastu, čaty kanónov proti útočnej vozbe (KPÚV), pomocných jednotiek a troch partizánskych oddielov. Spolu asi 2 000 mužov, dve húfnice 150 mm, dve húfnice 105 mm, tri húfnice 100 mm, štyri KPÚV 75 mm a jedenásť tankov LT-38
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Pozostával zo štábu, dvoch peších práporov, roty pechotných diel, protitankovej roty a čaty ľahkých tankov. Celkovo to predstavovalo nanajvýš 2 500 mužov, dve húfnice 150 mm, šesť diel 75 mm, dvanásť KPÚV 75 mm a päť ľahkých tankov PzKpfw. II.[76] Piateho septembra 1944 bojovala podstatná časť útočného pluku v priestore Spišskej Novej Vsi. Proti Stanekovi mohli preto stáť len veľmi skromné sily. Dokladá to aj povstalecké hlásenie z predošlého dňa, ktoré oznamuje, že Nemci majú v Telgárte slabší peší prápor.[77] Rovnaký prameň zároveň uvádza, že táto jednotka disponuje jednou húfnicou 150 mm, štyrmi KPÚV 75 mm a čatou protilietadlových kanónov 20 mm.
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Takže žiadna plichta, autor si mal objasniť taktiku Nemcov v 2. sv. a vy by ste boli múdrejší.
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