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Reklama
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Reklama
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). Zaitsev měl kliku-střílel naslepa a rána mu vyšla. Nedávno jsem podporučíka Vasilije Nikolajiveče Zaitseva viděl v jednom dokumentu o východní frontě. Je to takovej čipernej mongoloidní dědula 
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Tak nevim koho teda vyslýchali - byl to ruskej dokument Každopádně to byl sibiřan ako sviň-v hlavě nic moc, ale s nagantem mu to šlo...Greenhorn
well, one version says he didn't shoot blindly, as they say, so he had a sniper with a helmet on a stick behind him, and when the German thought he'd hit him, he got up, and Zaitsev took him out 
Anyway, this whole story is classified as at least unconfirmed, because the SS Colonel Heinz Thorwald is not listed in the editorial records, and therefore it is quite possible that he did not exist at all. I wonder where you heard about him as a sniper in Poland ?
Anthony Beevor, the author of the books about Stalingrad and the Battle of Berlin, has also discussed the whole idea that it is a fiction, and it has recently been published in Beta Dobrovsky and is available in our country. Beevor's view is that this file is not recorded in any of the military diaries of the time and area, and is an act of Soviet propaganda rather than a heroic battle.
Finally, it is interesting that Zaitsev, one of the supposedly best snipers of the Second World War during the RA, has no pages where you can find out, for example, when he was born and when, if ever, he died. Because I live under the assumption that he is already dead, but I can't confirm it from any source, because I just can't find it anywhere !!! Interesting, don't you think?
btw, an interesting page with his photos from 1971 is at
http://www.notesofasniper.com/
where there are also some of his books for purchase ...
Anyway, this whole story is classified as at least unconfirmed, because the SS Colonel Heinz Thorwald is not listed in the editorial records, and therefore it is quite possible that he did not exist at all. I wonder where you heard about him as a sniper in Poland ?
Anthony Beevor, the author of the books about Stalingrad and the Battle of Berlin, has also discussed the whole idea that it is a fiction, and it has recently been published in Beta Dobrovsky and is available in our country. Beevor's view is that this file is not recorded in any of the military diaries of the time and area, and is an act of Soviet propaganda rather than a heroic battle.
Finally, it is interesting that Zaitsev, one of the supposedly best snipers of the Second World War during the RA, has no pages where you can find out, for example, when he was born and when, if ever, he died. Because I live under the assumption that he is already dead, but I can't confirm it from any source, because I just can't find it anywhere !!! Interesting, don't you think?
btw, an interesting page with his photos from 1971 is at
http://www.notesofasniper.com/
where there are also some of his books for purchase ...
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kazdopadne, nasel jsem to na brazilske strance :
www.apaginavermelha.hpg.ig.com.br
ale kdyz se podivate na ty fotky a na ty obliceje (tech dobovych fotek, ne toho filmu
), tak mi to teda jako ten zajcev, co je uveden na vyse uvedenych fotkach, teda rozhodne neprijde ...
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Proč se tam nechá onen německý důstojník odstřelit jako idiot, nemluvě o tom, že předtím zabil onoho ruského chlapce?
True, there are more versions, another based on the book The Rat War, where Zaitsev's comrade-in-arms sacrificed himself by sticking his head out. Who knows what it was...
Otherwise, where did we get Poland, again Thorvald's recollections from the above novel. I think it would work, because being an SS colonel and running a sniper school requires some practical experience (i.e., deployment in combat). So if he existed, he probably could have been deployed during the Blitzkrieg (39-40). It's just a hypothesis, but for example in history in schools they teach a lot of things that are only based on conjecture.
Anyway, you put a bug in my head
because I assumed that he and Zaitsev almost existed.
Anyway, I found this documentary where Zaitsev spoke in my video library at home. It's from the Russian War-Slalingrad series. He mentions how, with the help of his comrades, he took out "some" sniper who ran a school in Berlin. He doesn't give a name, but from what he said, there was this sniper. Whether his name was Thorvald, God knows.
Otherwise, where did we get Poland, again Thorvald's recollections from the above novel. I think it would work, because being an SS colonel and running a sniper school requires some practical experience (i.e., deployment in combat). So if he existed, he probably could have been deployed during the Blitzkrieg (39-40). It's just a hypothesis, but for example in history in schools they teach a lot of things that are only based on conjecture.
Anyway, you put a bug in my head
because I assumed that he and Zaitsev almost existed.Anyway, I found this documentary where Zaitsev spoke in my video library at home. It's from the Russian War-Slalingrad series. He mentions how, with the help of his comrades, he took out "some" sniper who ran a school in Berlin. He doesn't give a name, but from what he said, there was this sniper. Whether his name was Thorvald, God knows.
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Nemám zatím tak široké obzory, a tak pokud někdo věc vidí jinak, nechť píše, rád se poučím.
S pozdravem Greenhorn
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A to se celé dá říct i o celém Zaicevovi..
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neobracel bych svou viru k Valce krys, protoze ta story, pokud je to zalozeno na historicke "pravde", tam bude vylicena podobne, jako primo v zajcevovych pametech, to ale nemusi znamenat, ze se to tak stalo, viz vse, co jsme jiz uvedli vyse. V teto zemi je opravdu mozne, aby se stalo to, co se nikdy nestalo, a naopak se tak nejak od-stalo to, co uz se stalo
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No dost se toho probralo už i zde, myslím, že tohle téma je zbytečné...
Viz: /topic/view/10475/
S pozdravem Siegfried
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