Boje na Slovensku - Kysuce
So I'm uploading one topic, which could deal with some combat issues in the area between Zilina and Cadca. I know that there were some partisan groups, in the village where I live there were German troops, and in addition to them -according to my grandmother- the Belorussians. Apparently they were Vlasov's.
I will be very grateful for any new information.
I will be very grateful for any new information.
Hey, Vlasovci boli aj u nas (t.j. in the vicinity of Levíc). Spoke of my old father. Ibaže is long dead and I doteraz I don't know that it is those Vlasovci you mean boli? My old father sa about them nevyjadroval in dobrom words zmysle..
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Boli's top units, bojujuce on the side of nemcov under the nat general Vlasov. the power of the sa nevenujem, but viem, from general Vlasov was captured in russia, probably in 41vom. rusom bolo umoznene fight "against Stalin", so was formed Vlasovova armada. it the right call I don't know-Russia oslobodzovacia armada, alebo nieco take. iste sa to find better expert on Vlasovovcov.
iste is from moja stara mama and the cell family of sa bala viac Vlasovovcov ako Nemcov..
iste is from moja stara mama and the cell family of sa bala viac Vlasovovcov ako Nemcov..
Vlasovci sa to all the army chceli stand on the side of the povstalcov in Prahe.......aj by us, well in povojnovych procesoch im very didn't help. After vojne sa group vlasovcov and banderovcov cez uzemie of Czechoslovakia tried to prejst to Zap. a part of germany. Against tymto skupinam boli organizovane patracie shares vychode Slovakia bezpecnostna squadron prepare a man akciu against tymto skupinam.....
little we sklzli from hlavnej temes. Len som I napisat from close Kysuckeho New Town sa nachadza mountain massif-Groans, enough dlhy, on ktorom vraj mali Germans vybudovane defensive pozicie.Assuming the local zdrojov sa in this horskom masive nachadza aj a ton of chodieb. What's the truth nevie on isto nik, iste is from after revolucii in 1989 came over to "visit" this area originally Mercedesov so zapadonemeckou plates, and after niekolkych hours spokojne odchadzali home. Spokojni boli aj chlapici, ktorich you boli Nemcuri "order" on the sprevadzanie..
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I managed to find out that in Slovakia there was a large representation of special commandoes - emergency groups and the area of Kysuce and Žilina belonged to the headquarters of EINSATZKOMMANDA 13 in Trenčín (from 1. SS-sturmbannfuhrer Dr. Hans JASKULSKI
Until September 20, 1944 he was represented by criminal councillor Otto KOZLOWSKI, from the end of January 1945 until April 1, 1945 the commander was SS-sturmbannfuhrer Karl SCHNITZ. The Einsatzkommando 13 staff was assigned the 3rd Platoon from Winter Company and the 3rd Platoon from Streit Company. Commander: SS-hauptsturmfuhrer Paul STREIT Commander of Detachment I.c (military intelligence): Bonigut NEUGEBAUER Commander of Detachment 3: SS-hauptsturmfuhrer Hans NAGER and MITTELHOLZER Commander of Detachment 4. SS-hauptsturmfuhrer Joseph JURITSCH Commander of Department N (confederate management). SS-hauptsturmfuhrer Werner SCHONEMANN
Interestingly, the special anti-partisan detachments belonged to the
SS Division Brandenburg
Commander: SS-obersturmfuhrer Otto SKORCZENY
Frontstelle II, Sud-Ost, in Vienna
Commander: lieutenant colonel FECHNER
Commander of the Slovakia desk: captain NOWAK
That would be all for now, I would be grateful for any info about Wehrmacht units, ...
PS: at the liberation of our village, watches and bicycles began to disappear:-)
Until September 20, 1944 he was represented by criminal councillor Otto KOZLOWSKI, from the end of January 1945 until April 1, 1945 the commander was SS-sturmbannfuhrer Karl SCHNITZ. The Einsatzkommando 13 staff was assigned the 3rd Platoon from Winter Company and the 3rd Platoon from Streit Company. Commander: SS-hauptsturmfuhrer Paul STREIT Commander of Detachment I.c (military intelligence): Bonigut NEUGEBAUER Commander of Detachment 3: SS-hauptsturmfuhrer Hans NAGER and MITTELHOLZER Commander of Detachment 4. SS-hauptsturmfuhrer Joseph JURITSCH Commander of Department N (confederate management). SS-hauptsturmfuhrer Werner SCHONEMANN
Interestingly, the special anti-partisan detachments belonged to the
SS Division Brandenburg
Commander: SS-obersturmfuhrer Otto SKORCZENY
Frontstelle II, Sud-Ost, in Vienna
Commander: lieutenant colonel FECHNER
Commander of the Slovakia desk: captain NOWAK
That would be all for now, I would be grateful for any info about Wehrmacht units, ...
PS: at the liberation of our village, watches and bicycles began to disappear:-)
Guys will tell you that you are talking about something completely different here. First, "After the war, groups of people from Vlasov and Bandera tried to cross the territory of Czechoslovakia to the western part of Germany" is a complete delusion. Those units were only Banderov resp. UOA-Ukrainian Liberation Army. These units occurred mainly in northeastern Slovakia and were successfully destroyed in 1952. It seems to me that one of their main commanders had the nickname Burlaknik "Banderovci" from CHňupek. There were only a few hairs in Slovakia and this is nothing new Morphee. Mostly they were Ukrainians or Kazakhs and such. They spoke Russian and therefore their people called them Vlasovci. Otherwise, the information from Shakala007 is also on www.szpb.sk. and those units were not the first ones, but were part of the Einsatzgruppe H, ie they were special SS units that worked closely with the POHG and terrorized the population. However, they worked behind the front.
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Citace - Shakal007 :
Tak nahadzujem jednu temu, ktora by sa mohla zaoberat nejakymi bojovymi zalezitostami v oblasti medzi Zilinou a Cadcou. Viem, ze tu boli nejake partizanske skupiny, v dedinke kde byvam boli nemecke jednotky a okrem nich aj -podla mojej starej mamy-Bielorusy. zrejme to vsak boli Vlasovovci.
Budem velmi vdacny za kazde nove informacie.
Od novembra 1944 do januára 1945 bola v uvedenom priestore dislokovaná 14. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (ukrainische Nr.1), teda Ukrajinci.
Ja som tiež of Kysúce. Old mama me free download a small hovorila, that through the forests in the našej dedine prechádzali Banderovci. Pulled down the sa there prestrelka and čosi neskôr found there etc one mŕtveho. Thus som have it zapamätal.
One pamätníčka from Stará Bystrica me hovorila that, in the dedine quite ochre the German jednotiek, etc maďari and spomínala etc rumunov, but the children were nasadení about skôr on opevňovacie work..
One pamätníčka from Stará Bystrica me hovorila that, in the dedine quite ochre the German jednotiek, etc maďari and spomínala etc rumunov, but the children were nasadení about skôr on opevňovacie work..
Romanians? It probably ťažko.... By August 1944 soo romanians on the side of the spojencov and the Romanian army the sa aktivne zapája to the regional countries against germany. Vzhľadom to the fact that the German units prenikli in slovakia, up from 29.8. is the speaker rumunov on the ich side of impossible (and not even on the opevňovacie work). Personally pochybujem, etc about the Hungarian vojakoch (but totally nevylučujem) - before the outbreak of the SNP could not even the game rai football territory žiadne Hungarian units (quite sme suverénny štát and maďari were nasadení niekde totally inde). In this period, and up to konca army fought the Hungarian army väčšinou svojom territory and in juhoslávii..
Buko, I must have thee poopraviť. Kysuce fell within operačného bandwidth 4. Ukrainian front, konkrétne it ľavého krídla 18. Army. On the section of the Kysúce before ňou receded 304. pešia divízia with podriadenou and bojmi distorted 16. the Hungarian pešou divíziou ( teh mimochodom receded the territory of Slovakia to the west from konca r. 1944), and some of the trade prápory and battle group pozostávajúce of vojakov broken divízií. Between príslušníkmi 16.PD sa nachádzali etc Slovaks from Maďarmi zabratého územia. What sa týky Rumunov, počul som of the ich present, etc on the Orave, but probably the sa was zajatcov recovered on opevňovacie work, pretože the Romanian army advanced ako súčasť 2.UF, južného suseda 18.And.
It vsjo vo of generality..
It vsjo vo of generality..
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Mohlo se i jednat o maďarské vojáky rumunské národnosti. Viz třeba článek ve sborníku "Slovenská republika 1939-1945 očami mladých historikou".
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