A story of the tragedy of human genius and stupidity...
I've heard that a lot has been written about the airbase near Bihać in L+K, but I bring you details taken from the text of the forum of former ex-Yugoslav countries and directly from people who served at this airport and who spent a part of their whole lives there.
The year is 1957. In strict secrecy, the first silhouettes of the secret "505" facility are taking shape at the Ministry of Defence in Belgrade. Specifically, in the Special Purpose Building Department. The chief engineer of the project is Colonel Dr. Lj. Kodelja and Colonel V. Smirnov. Even before that, the territory is selected. The choice fell on a place which is close to the city of Bihac, in the centre of the former Yugoslavia, and which is covered on almost all sides by high mountains. It was not until 1959 that the first fieldwork began. The work was entrusted to the state construction company "Soča". At the same time as the construction of the airport, the tunnels themselves, 5 large runways were being built for the landing and departure of aircraft. However, here the first problem arose, because the mountain massif in which the airport was to be located was made of very hard rock and blasting methods had to be used all the time. The engineers therefore used the blasting methods of "full and empty fill" and achieved almost centimetre accuracy in digging a tunnel 20 m wide, 8 m high and 1 km long. The end of the excavation dates back to 1965. The work was carried out in secrecy in three shifts and around 250 technicians and engineers were employed. It was only in 1966 that the first units of the Yugoslav air force began to arrive.
The military airfield they made looked really impressive. There were 3 tunnels plus one reserve tunnel (escape tunnel), which connected at a "junction", behind which led a giant hall where Migs, up to 12 m high, were repaired. These tunnels were 500 m, 400 m and 350 m long, 20 m wide and 8 m high! This base in the bottom of the Gola Pleševica mountain was also designed to withstand a precise hit by a 20 kt nuclear bomb. Each of the 4 tunnels was twisted and had a concrete curtain on the upper sides every tenth metre. All of this led to reinforced concrete gates that were designed to withstand an impact of up to 3 atmospheres. This impressive gate weighed around 103 tonnes, was 21 metres long, 9 metres high and 1 metre thick. It hermetically sealed off the entire underground airfield and slid sideways.
Otherwise, the building itself in the massif of the mountain was designed to survive in it for a longer period of time with the entire men and crew of the facility, which means that there were missile storage, bombs, complete repair facilities for the Mig-21 type, aviation giant fuel tanks, kitchen, hospital, rooms for the aviation and maintenance personnel of the facility.
In the very centre of the facility, or underground airfield, was an elevator that led almost 30 metres up to the control tower, which was actually a bunker from which all air traffic in the outdoor area of the airfield was controlled. Here was the mission command and planning, radar, weather station and, most importantly, the headquarters of the entire facility.
Since the airfield was designed to survive a nuclear attack, it had its own fuel tanks, but otherwise there was about 20 km of pipeline leading into it, terminating at the Army's fuel depot at the foot of Mount Pokoj. And the ammunition was stored 5 km from the airfield in the village of V. Polje.
The ventilation system of the building itself was a real sensation for its time. It worked continuously and kept the temperature even in the very centre of the Klek facility, i.e. in the core of the mountain, at a constant temperature and low humidity. It was around 21°C in the rooms and 18°C in the aircraft tunnels. As far as water was concerned, when the tunnels were being dug, there was a small river that eventually supplied the facility with water.
The outside part of the airbase consisted of 5 runways: 2 (landing-taking-off) and 3 take-off runways, and barracks and logistics stores.
On the mountain Gola Plješevica itself, i.e. on the mountain in which the Klek facility was hidden, at a height of about 1,650 m, the English radar S-613 was installed, which was the Mercedes among radars for its time, and so it was possible to monitor what was happening in the whole of Italy, Hungary, Austria, which caused great opposition from these countries. I remind you that the range of the radar at that time was some 400-450 km! The radar itself had its part of the staff buried near it and in winter it was only possible to access this hill by helicopter because of the height and the snow. Only the radar survived until 1995, after which it was destroyed by the Croatian army.
In terms of personnel, the 117th Air Fighter Regiment with Mig-21PF aircraft and the 323rd Reconnaissance Regiment with Mig-21R aircraft were stationed at the airfield.
The only similar facility is the Slatina airfield, which is much smaller.
The cost of this facility, that is, the entire airport, both the outdoor infrastructure and the facility in the mountain itself, cost a whopping $4 billion for its time! And certainly a lot of lives, as there are rumors of political prisoners and death row inmates who were sent there and never returned.(Witnesses who saw the black patched buses go by are still alive today.)
In 1992, as almost all of Yugoslavia was already torn by war, Serbian troops destroyed this airport. That is, the army that had been taking care of this airport and covering it as its most secret airport on May 12, 1992. With the help of a few trucks, they destroyed the tunnel entrances and the runways and bombed the parts that could be used. Thus ended the 4 billion dollar fairy tale of a facility that was something of a science fiction story for its time. Something so technologically advanced and ingenious.
Excuse my Czech, I don't live in the Czech Republic, but I know some of your language, I don't have commas on my keyboard either
If anyone appreciates my efforts and is interested, here is a link to some interesting videos of what it used to look like... I think it's worth a look...
Vjezd do tunelu č.2 .Fotka je z roku 2002-05 Je videt krasne zaclona proti uderu n. bomby ve tvaru profilu Mig 21
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I said once of the send par photos of this pretty neat but opusteneho mista. So here they are. What is a tuple of the radar on a mountain above the letistem so there I also got but more on that some other time if you will be interested.
Ps. the car I photographed just abi nereklo from there weren't the czechs .
Dakota na vjezdu do kasaren pred samim letistem. 2 Thunderjety jsou za ni ale uz je trava a lesi skoro cele pohltili.
Prijezdova cesta k tunelum do vnitra letiste. Kolem jsou minova pole ,tak ze kdo sjede ,uz se nevrati :D
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Jedna ze 4 vzletovih drah. Je smerovana smerem od vjezdu 1 k severovichodu. Kdysi mela kolem 17m na širku.Dnes uz hodne zarostla.Nebudu ani rikat jaky jsou tam zasipany obrovsky diri ktery tam udelala JNA.
1čka...vpravo upozorneni na minova pole... V klidu a jen po asfaltu chodit a jezdit,a nic se vam nestane :D Teda pokud nespadne strom nebo nepotkate hloupeho klusteho psa :D
vjezd 2
otacim fotakem pomalu do leva smerem k trojce...
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Toto mela byt prvni fotka. Vlajky vztičeny,Česka prvni a potom muze byt vse ostatni! :D Dosahl jsem touzeneho cile. V pravo vjezd -vijezd cislo 1,v levo pak vjezd cislo 2.
Fotka focena smerem k jihu,vidi se primo pred nami cesta k 4ce a vpravo vjezd k 3jce.
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Pohled na druhou drahu,nejvice pouzivanou jako vzletova. Vede k draze 3 ktera spojuje 1dnicku a 2ku. 3ka byla nejdelsi a nejširši,pouzivala se pro vzlet a pristani letadel jako byla An-26 nebo B-737
z leva dvojka a jednicka...
jednicka detaljneji...
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Dvojka z vice pohledu...
Trojka...
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Trojka ze začatku.Je velmi teške si predstavit ze se sem vešli 2 Migi 21 vedle sebe... Ale bylo to tak,vydel jsem fotky. Taky jak muzete videt,trojka to odnesle nejmin,ostatni tuneli jsou na tom o dost hure :(
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on youtube I put less snimek that you could imagine realneji.
And I have one more pripominku,how critical is this forum a little lenošive,I'd advice don people at least a little bit of vice angazovali around the topic.Vice picture,vice text and information,almost every topic on this forumu nema vice how 20 its,it is a little poor
With best regards, from BiH..
Trochu z WV...ty nemecky mrchy se stejnak dostanou kdekoliv :D
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I guess I mentioned from above letištem Željava is a mountain named Plješevica,or too Gola (hola) is Plješevica. In te hore is zakopane as I've said a cell underground centre airport.But we I last wrote.The mountain is visoka around 1650m. and to sam hill is located a big cabin.So you could somehow copy. Damn her,običejny smrtelnik would rek some papalaš you up there in mracich did chat with your rozhledam but it's not so. The cottage was just obydlim for survival better among the crew that obstaravala and worked with radars nekdejši JNA (Jugoslavska Narodni Armada).With a radar that was built in this vyšce the JNA had an overview of all leteckem deni in the bigger dilu Italije,Hungary ,in the entire Croatia,Bosnia and the work i Jugoslavije (this).Radar that worked was purchased in Brytaniji,according to all the information that radar was the tip of the S-600 Marconi.Next to him there take made real vyškomer S-613 ,radar sekundarniho cannot CD-2 which was connected to the S-600 and 2 side cameras that precovali samostalne and independent of the first two S-654M and WITH-654D. Crew learn to stridala after 1 months.Conditions were...well,I read vselicos,al was it when you all take into consideration as well.The only thing in the summer was malo so was the water. Water and diesel are davazela every week kamionama if this slo. Self-obekt mel your a giant electro central.Obekt was is great for connected to the sit ali in the 1650m above sea in the vapors of the minutes promeni weather and will be vychr like thunder. Snow: here, byval from 8meho to 4teho months.The Ato when it was snowing there, there were even 4metry snow.Is great for of the to notice počitalo.All dili obektu were connected podzemnimi tuneli.The first tunnel beat placed over almost 60m. under the same chajdou and vychod mel towards the west.This tunnel could be after shodech vijit and from the cottage,into the basement.From the basement to the slo bud into the store,into the elektrocentrali,or to control the letoveho operation and servicing of the radar.Each of the 2 major radar had directly under him a bunker in which she was working of his operation.From the basement you could also milk the tunnel on the vichodni side of the mountain.The cottage had even the first floor,first floor walker and podkrovni space. Never I didn't see how many there actually were working together people.Obekt as it tak, in the year 93 was a strict strezen. But among the soldiers there was tranquility. It was kind of just the elite that no one bothered.Heliodrom was there,but the inspection is nekonali. Under nemi was a giant airport and so who would come to the staging area where she was vecna cold ,and helikoptera there stajnak in consider climate could not be long. In the winter, with zasobi took bud to Me-8mickou from the airport or kamionama if they managed to spruchodnit way .That you later show in the form of pictures Just for looks from the other side of the hori is located airport Udbina.Is vzdaleno around 60km by car.It was vybudovano as a backup for Željavu,and today is used to drill the Croatian armadou.Some češti pilots adventurers to milne up to now as Zeljavu,but Željava is much better:lol: From Udbini was on the G. Pljesevicu,especially in the summer ,technycka squad and platoon inženiru which managed obekt and way.
Par zajimavich info even. All the radars were covered in polarnimi domes. The wind up there was even richlosti 180km/h and hromi there mlatili very also. In prime near obektu is zakopana giant medena plate which slouzila to odvadeni flash. Polarni dome of the beat is huge, in promeru had I think around 13m and 10m.The first were imported from the USA,later their repair took over with licencnimi povolenimi firmi of byvale Jugoslavije..
Takhlenc vypada Gola Pljesevica z dalky.Vifoceno z mestecka Korenica.Kdysi davno se to menovalo Titova Korenica ale moderni deni bylo k Titovi nemilosrdne.
Takhlenc vypadala pripojkova cesta na G.Pljesevicu v lete. Nachazi se blisko motelu Vinetu na regionalni ceste mezi Plitvickymi jezery a Korenicou.
Lesley je kod pro tuto zakladnu,nebo kdysi byl dokud tam nahore byli kanadani.
Cesta je zla,neudrzovana,a jezdi tam jen kamioni a traktory ktere odtamtud vyvazeji drevo. Sem tam potkate nejake ty turysty,ale mejte na vedomi,byla tam valka a medvedi tam zijou taky.Porad jste jeste v prostoru ktery je obivam nedotcenou florou a faunou.
Kdo se rozhodne tam jet,vzpomente si na me,a vzdycky DO LEVA,jinak zabloudite :D
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Tady uz vidime chajdu,priroda je krasna,cesta odporna.Vymleta vodou,sjizna jen tak tak,ale v prvni rychlosti to jde. Ja jsem jel nahoru 45minut porad v prvni rychlosti,jinak to nesto.Podvozek jsem oskrabal jen jemne,ale skuste jet nekam 45min. na jednicku :D
Tak,dojeli jsme,do vrchu chybi aji tak jeste 150m pešky,ale tam uz je nejaky sutrak.Auto nechavame na 1600m
Mesto Bichač,Bosna a Hercegovina
Konec runaway čislo 5
Konečne se ukazuje hlavni draha letiste,nato ze ma kolem 3km vypada celkove prtave :D
Dalsi komentare zase nekdy jindy...
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Photos from the last expedition to Zeljava underground airport. There are also photos from the barracks next to the inner complex. If anyone has any questions, comments, please ask.
Poslednich par metru...
Prvni vojenska stavba,mali domecek pro jednoho muze.Zde bi melo zacinat vojenske pasmo z vichodni strany.
Kabel elektroinstalace.Vse je vyrvano ze zeme,kabli jsou ukradeny :(
Druhy vstup,a zaroven vstup do podzemnich tunelu z vichodu.Vedle nej je poklop anteny z klasickeho zeleza.Neni to zadnej radar ani neco podobneho.Po vstupu dovnit je par mistnosti a potom delsi tunel z schodama ktere vedou do podzemi chaty.
Smeti...tolik zustalo z hystoryje .Vse co se dalo odnyst,odneseno je,co se nehodilo ,bylo vyhozeno...
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A opet drahy :D Letiste je jako na dlani. Když to tam bylo v provozu muselo to byt senzacni.
Ticho,klid,jen sokolove a vitr.Najednou se z dalky ozve hrmeni,neco se v dalce zacne bliskat.Zacina se kourit a videt cerveni chvost. Dvojce Migu 21bis startuji na svou deni misi...
Telefoni anteny,toto je jedini civilni majetek tehdejsi statni posti Jugoslavije.
Uz jsme skoro nahore...Prvni pozustatky anten ...
Stojime na heliodromu.Asfalt je popraskany a je to jedinih par metriku asfaltu vsude dokola.Pristi asfalt bude az zase ten na magistralni ceste.Dole v udoli bylo kolem 23celzija,tady už bylo kolem 15ti.Na teplotu v 8mem mesici je to celkem dost.Slunce sviti,oblačcy jsou vedle nas.Hrobove ticho vladne vsude kolem.Vse je mrtve,jen vitr mluvi o necem co tu kdysi bylo a hora je jeste jeden nemi svedek... Divame se na chajdu,i kdy ted uz určite vidite ze je to celkem dost velyky obekt. Divame se smerem od severu k jihu. Za temi horami v dalce uz je Jadranske more...
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pohledem trochu do leva,smerem k vichodu uz je videt betonovi plac,hlavniho radaru.
Tento kamen je zde od dob Maryje Terezije. Donesli ho jsem sedlaci na pamatku teto cisarovny.
Misto hlavniho radaru
Pod placem pro radar je zelezobetonovi bunkr.Zde bila kabina obsluhy radaru ve dvou kabinach.Ty bili spojeni podzemnim tunelem s chatou a meli svou vlastni klimatizaci.
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pohled jeste trochu do leva ve vnitrku mistnosti pod radarem
a jeste trochu do leva...
Chajda :D Je hodne velka.Je zajimave ze ta klimatizaci proti radioaktivnimu zamoreni nemela.
Zde byla kuchyne,nocleharna,sklady s potravinamy a materyjalem. Koupelnicka byla jen jedna a mala.Pokud se chtel nekdo koupat tak se musel zeptat nadrizeneho.Vodou se šetrilo. Ja jsem dovnit sel jen okrajove.Momentalne je tam skoro vse rozbite.Co se dalo nejak vyuzit to lidi roskradli.
Toto je vztup do kabiny pod druhym radarem z venci. Ten je mezi hlavnim radarem a chajdou.Taky mel klimu a propojen byl tuneli .
Prostor kabiny zevnitr.Vlevo je videt vstup do podzemnich tunelu.
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Dvere do elektrocentrali.Tam bil dizl agregat ktery pracoval pokud by hrozil vypadek elektriny.Tak ze celkem casto.Mejme na vedomi ze radary a jina elektrycka zarizeni byla v te dobe velice nachylna na nizky proud . Egzistuji svedci kteri rikali ze se nekdy z hory kourilo jak ze spalovny :D To bylo tehdy kdyz jel dizlak na plnej plin. Nad dvermi je sklad ktery pouzivali jednotki knadskeho SFORu.
Toto je zbitek heliodromu...Uz se rospadl. Za nim tak asi 150m dal by mela byt louka vniz je zakopana obri medena deska.
Aaaaaa zase letište z ptači perspektivi :D Stalo se zato tam vidrapat.
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Still I've got some serious implications pripominek .If you decide to drive through the airport and scrape up here don't you go inside and-don't go anywhere off the roads. Like I said jugoslavska armada here it's ruined and in the tunnels are even today nevibuchle surely and minometna ammo.It is 100% dokazane. The view from the outside is apsolutne dostatecny get inside ,go into the tunnel I but they. What is tuple airport it is ok,there are mines just in the frozen woods and around the lanes when you drive down the road you go right,but up here it's worse.Note too that the Croats do not keep air zachranou service as in the Czech republic. It is sometimes the adrenaline just step into the unknown,but they are for stracenou leg. That I'm talking about they get.From Korenice than kvam coming zachranka will take not 45 minutes,without nochy until then vikrvacite anyway.
I say this because of the certain colleague from this forumu was there.From my little help to him there, too, managed with the bike to get,but the photos I nelinkoval here. Don is someone there decided to go so be careful..
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All photos that are here except the first post are mine! Even if they are not marked, they were taken by my hand.I write this because you can find quite a few articles on search engines where the photos are taken from here.
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The snimek Mig-21R (from my archives,passed the year I won 2 medals at the Serbia in modelareni-NG.buy). Mig is like located in front of muzejem air force in Belehrade. Muzejum is a distance of about 150m from the airport Nikola Tesla. Music is the only znami Mig-21R in addition, in Klagenfurt who fled mr. Rudolf Peresin who's not totally zdevastovany or rozmontovany and puvodem is from Željavi. It's the one with the tech Mig that tvorili all one sqvadronu on Željave..
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Vratime se trochu do minulosti...Nahore fotka z roku 2011..Dole fotka se stejnym mistem ale datuje se rok 198? Na fotce dole je videt hlavni stani Migu 21bis a predletova priprava. Migi byli vitazeny z tunelu 1 nebo 2 a brzi pujdou do vzduchu.
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Jedna z tech nejznamejšich fotek Željavi...
21čky jsou vitažene ven pomoci elektromobilu,pod prvni betonovou zavesou (ta ktera je tvarovana na profil 21cky) .Tam je prebira pozemni personal z traktory značky TAM. Jak vidite i kdyz je tento vchod-vychod hodne daleko od hranice letište s pozemnim personalem tam stoji aji 2 MP.ci.Jeden uplne v pravo a druhy uprostred.
Vše je maskovano ze zhora siti :D Aji dneska se jeste traduji vtipi o tom jak rusaci na satelitech videli vylitavat stihačky z hory :D To musela byt podivana :D Ale pravda je opakem. Delali se pokusi jestli 21cka muze vylitnout primo z tunelu ale neslo to. Pri startu z vnitrku hory se zavreli prvne železobetonove dvere,cimz se stvorila kapsle gde se 21cka takrka udusila.Dochazelo k uhasnuti motoru :( Tak ze vsechny migi sli vzdy prvne ven a potom ze stani na drahu.
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From the great joy I can say I got autorska allowed from the two major moderatoru from forumu : zeljava-lybi .From now on you thanks to them I can show photos that you just malo gde saw and to the right mira tell you what,where and how .
Tunel čislo 3. I kdyz se zda ze svetla jdou do prava jako v tunelu cislo 1 po nachyleni zeme je poznat ze je to trojka.Pise se rok 198?
Tunel 2... S laskavim dovolenim zeljava-lybi.com
Mig-21 vitazen z tunelu a pripraven k akci. Jedna se o hotovostni letoun . S laskavim dovolenim zeljava-lybi.com
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Toto je zacatek tunelu cislo 2 focen negde kolem 1970te.Fotka je dost rarytni,ziskana od jednoho tehdejsiho clena sekce vyvolavani filmu a pruzkumneho materyjalu. Jak vidite všechno co jezdi na benzin zustava venku.Dovnitr uz vtahuje Mig jen elektrycke vozidlo .Podivejte se take na podlahu,je to prvni podlaha natrena tehdy specijalnim naterem z gumi ktery zabranoval vireni prachu.Dnes to mame aji v obicejne garazi,ale tehdy to byla novinka :D Sprava mame zase člena MP. ktery kontroluje propustky...
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Propustka vYpadala presne takhle. Bez teto karticky velikosti prukazu o vlastnictvi auta ste byli spion .Jakekoliv zapomenuti teto propustky bylo velice prisne trestano.Ale to se spravidla nestavalo.Lide kteri pracovali na Željave byli vetšinou nejlepsi ve sve tride. Npr. vojensky hasiči meli učilište v Belehrade ,tam byli 2 roky + zakladni sluzba.Za tu dobu si nadrizeni udelali pohled na vojaky a 3 nejlepsi mohli jit na Željavu k hasičske jednotce.Ostatni mohli jit na jina letiste ale na Željavu ne. S tim ze se bodovala jak kvalita jedince tak i kadrove vztahy s komunistyckou partiji Jugoslavije. Take jedinec byl vystaven proverkam .Nekteri kteri byli potrebni na Željave a neprosli proverkama spolehlivosti zustali na delši dobu behem a po vykonani sve funkce na Željave bez pasu. Jugoslavci mohli cestovat kam chteli,a prozrazeni neceho z Željavi se nikomu nechtelo ryskovat.
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Co je taky velice vazne pred tim nez trochu vice vejdeme do detajlu je tato mapa. Vse je psano jak na chorvatskem tak aji na anglictine cim si muzete udelat predstavu a porovnat mista z fotek ktere Vam zde budu pomalu den co den predstavovat...Mapu neberte na metr presne,je udelana jen na porovnani kde co bylo,dimenzne neodpovida realnemu obektu .
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Take vjezd do 2ky.Foceno v zime ,rok 1969-70.
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Toto je foceno ve 2ce,trochu vice dovnitr kousek pred zelezobetonovimi dvermi.Take foceno nekdy po nastehovani do letiste.Podlaha jeste neni hotovamklimatizace nefunguje na 100%. Jinak jak uz je znamo 1968 u nas v ČR. komousi udelali paseku.Tito jakozto vladce Jugoslavije, dalo bi se rict se zalekl a naridil aby se letiste i kdyz bylo nedokoncene okamžito nastehovalo a zacalo s operacni sluzbou.
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Tady mame vjezd 2 nebo 3? Nevi se presne ale v barve a roku 1990/91.
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El. vozidlo vlece 21cku dovnitr pres dvojku .Mig patri 352. sqvadrone.Na fotce je take zajimave ze zde bylo pouzivano uz modernejsi el.vozidlo.
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In this post, I would like to especially THANK the "frenkimu1986" for providing valuable information prior to our last visit Željavy and Goly Plješevici. I'm sure there we go again with stronger lights for a more thorough examination of the bowels of the mountains (headlamps are little, it is so for a few tens of the initial square). So far I'm just adding a couple of pictures, whether am I disturbing frenkiho a much more qualified interpretation of the..
Příjezdová cesta k tunelu č. 4 (ten byl únikový)už leží na Bosenském území.
Budka Bosenské pohraniční stráže před příjezdem ke čtyrce. Sice je prázdná, ale stráž sem poměrně často jezdí na kontrolu. Nedoporučuje se v této části moc motat, protože to může být považováno za nezákonný přechod státní hranice.
Cvičné betonové bomby ležící poblíž.
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Thank You Marvy. That's fine,nerušiš, advice I if this anyone adds a photo or uzitecnou try to use. What tiče celniku,you're right.To 4ce it's not very safe.From chorvatske page when it comes so it's prekroceni state boundaries,and this causes only fine with other zakazem entry into this kompleksu.From bosenske party here da too drive,egzistuje way toward the center of Bihacč,from there to the barrel of the hospital and then about 3.5 KM down the road and we get to bran the airport but from the other side. This way use mainly domestic (mainly those who roskradli included the warlord of the underground) and calnici. Negde there beside te road also leads underground dovod kerozinu. Željava as the underground airport had 3 giant all containers kerozinu deep in the mountain.so abi each squadron had its tank.But,the barrel nadrze of kerozinem were for Bihačem in the village Room and here prijizdeli trains from kerozinem,from there it precerpavalo and cheered potrubim in the underground and from the airport.So off to the airport never roll any zasobi kerozinu down the road It was good for. What tiče bombs,there are after tych lesicich a lot,but zbirat I nedoporucoval.Can there apartment to see the mines,and of such a artefact bi he could turn out to be an issue my whole life JNA 1991az 92he out of there before it blew up took my could use into the future.So from that there might not remain random..
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Po vstupu do 2ky letadla mijela zelezobetonova dvere. potom mirila bud do galerije 124. sqvadroni nebo 125. Na obrazku mame uz prazdnou galeriji 124.sgn.Pravdepodobne vytahnuta ven na stani pred tzv. trijangl.Na leve strane Migu je tunel do letecke opravny.Tou se budeme zabivat zvlast nekdy jindy.A pred leteckou opravnou bila odbocka do prava ktera vedla k vjezdu/ vyjezdu do tunelu čislo 1.Misto pro stihaci 125. sgn.
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Tady mame galeriji 125. sqn. foceno nekde kolem roku 1991.To uz nechybelo moc k jejimu konci.Pripomenme si ze to srbi zvedli do vzduchu v 5tem mesici 1992.Za nimi nekde v dalce je uz zminena opravna. Po stranach,ty červene trubky ,to jsou pripuste kerozinu.Odsud se tankovala letadla.
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Podobne misto jen foceno trochu blize k zetačce.Snimek je taky porizen o dost drive,jsou zde videt Migi mladši generace.
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Galrije 125 sgn. Rok neznami,ale typnul bych to na 85 a pozdeji podle toho typu el. vozitka.
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Galerije 125.te sqn. Je videt jak se tehdy oblikali piloti JNA. Kombineza pro velke višky a kozena bunda pravdepodobne ješte z ameryckych dodavek.
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Take jeden z velice znamich snimku .Tento byl porizen nekde kolem roku 1970. Tehdy to byla bezkonkurenčni supertajna zakladna.
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A tady uz je vyjezd z 1čky.
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Migi 21F-13 jsou serazeny smerem k otvoru č.1.Piše se rok 1969.Zakladna jeste porad neni dokončena což nam ukazuje velka vrstva betonoveho prachu na kolech migu.Foceno je na miste mezi križovatkou (ktera je za Migem a spojuje galeriji 124sgn.,galeriji 125.sgn ktera je na fotce a leteckou opravnu)a prvnim zahybem do prava smerem k vychodu č.1.
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Velice zajimava fotka ze začatku letište.Do F-13tky se tankuje kerozin pomoci pumpi na vozičku.Foceno take kolem 1969 a Migi jsou otoceny k vyjezdu 2,obracene od predchozi fotky.
Asi se nekteri ptate proc nam porad ukazuje jen tu jednu eventualne 2 galerije ze čtyr? Odpoved zni,je to dato mistem. Nektere fotky ktere jsem zde dal jsou zretusovane.Slouzili k oklamani nepritele,byla to reklama na zastraseni,ale zaroven z ni byli treba vymazany vaznejsi detajli . Take galerije 125. sqn. byla nejdal od tak zvane hvezdy. Hvezda bylo operacni centrum letište a jeho mozek tal ze samozdrejme cim dal a sco min detajlu tim lepe. No bud me radi ze se dochovalo aspon tohle. S stupnem utajeni ktery tam vladl az skoro do roku 1987 je i toto dobre.
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A tady mame zase 1čku. Takhlenc vypadala do konce 90tych let. Potom co je zajimave se v betonove zavese udelali 2 menši otvori vertikalne tak aby tam mohli projizdet aji Migi-29. V te dobe uz Yugoslavije dysponovala menšim počtem 29tek a par jich bylo skoušeno jak by se vešli dovnitr a jake by meli byt upravi galeriji.No, do vetšich pozitivnich uprav uz nedoslo,prišlo jen ničeni...
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A samozdrejme Tito. Toto byl vladce všecho.Dnes uz ta euforije z jeo osobnosti je skoro zapomenuta ale tehdy pokud ste neco špatneho o nem rekli v hospode tak ste skoncili bez zubu,a policajti vas jeste dodatecne dotloukli.Byl to tvrdy rezim pro ty kteri byli proti Titovi.Tady se zdravi s piloty u 1čky,rok 1969. Prišl se podivat jak to postavili.Po te co vse "skontroloval" vzletli všechny Migi do vzduchu na jeho počest. Podruhe se to stalo az když umrel.Nikdy vickrat se nic tak grandiozniho nestalo.
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Toto je stejne misto jako na posledni fotce v tomto prispevku s Titem,fotomontaz snimku z 1969. ale tunel je focen roku 2008 . :(
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Toto jsou pan Blažević a pani Planinc,oba visoci polityci tehdejši YU. v galeriji 125. sqn.
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Fotka je mizerne kvality ale zde mame pana Antona Tuše.Nekdejši velitel leteckych sil JNA. Prave udelal proslov a piloti z Željavi byli toho roku prohlašeni nejlepši jednotkou letectva JNA.
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Kdyz uz jsme venku ,tak tady mame klasicke plneni pohonych hmot do 21čky.Kamion je klasicky valnik TAM ale ma provizorne pridelanou nadrz na phm. Pravdepodobne se jedna o Mig ktery nebyl z Željavi.Stavalo se ze nekteri piloti pristavali na Željave kvuli naviknuti na druhe zakladny,aby se naučili kde je co.Samozdrejme ze nemohli dovnitr.Venku bylo par domečku kde mohli obdrzet dalši instrukce a po priprave Migu se slo zase domu.
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Tito mluvi s technyckym personalem .Poposel vise k vnitrku hory.
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Toto je fotka pristavacich a odletovich drah udelano minuleho roku z G. Pljesevice. Červena čisla jsou čisla drahy.Čtverka vede na levo z vyjezdu č. 1.Draha čislo tri,vede primo do tunelu vjezdu 2. A draha čislo 5 vede primo do vjezdu čislo 4.Ale na fotce je nakreslena jen cervenou čarou,kopec ji prekryva. Jelikož vetšina map neukazuje toto letište,asi proto ze je vojenske a ješte se k tomu ani nepouziva,oficijelne je zničeno,zakreslil jsem velmi vazny bod pro ty ktreri by se tam radi podivali. Na fotce v levo na hore je krouzek s malim i . To je celnica IZAČIĆ mezi Bosnou a Chorvatskem. Dalo by se rict ze je to hlavni celnica pro kamiony tak je tam rušno vetšinou. Na pravo je Bosna,na levo Chorvatsko. Z jakekoliv strany kdyz tam pojedete a jokoukoliv cestou tak ty drahy neuvidite. Letiste je konfiguraci terenu pro pouheho smrtelnika nezasveceneho navždy skryto malimi kopečky a mirnim previšenim terenu. Jak vidite runway č.4 miri od vjezdu 1 primo na celnici,a konci asi 3m od ni,je tam jen mala silnice ktera je zavrena pro verejnost.Ale kdyz dojedete do Izačiču tak vite ze uz jste blisko.
Foceno pohledem z kontrolni veže.Na fotce vidime v levo runway č. 4 a na pravo od ni runway č. 3. Toto je misto zvane trijangl.Tady prosel kazdy kdo htel vyjit ven nebo dovnitr zakladny a take je videt hlavni stani letadel na draze č. 3.
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Fotka porizena primo vedle predchozi fotky.Kdyz si je date vedle sebe udelate si malou panoramu.Je videt draha č. 5 a častečne 2ka.
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Menši porovnani velikosti galeriji.
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Draha čislo 4.Mig odlita smerem k hraničnimu prechodu.Samozdrejme ze v roce 90 tam nebylo apsolutne nic,hranice v te dobe ne egzistovali.Byla tam jenom silnica ktera spojovala vesničku Izačić a vesničku Željava.
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Stani na začatku drahy č. 3 a take hlavni stani pred odletem na mise.Zpatky se letadla ktera patrila do zeljavi nedavala na stani ale hned se vtahovala do vnitra hory.
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Stejne misto jako na fotce nahore ale jiny rok.
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Tady meme fotku take stani č.1 na draze č.3. Fotka je udelana z snimku s kanalu youtube. Datuje se rok 1991.Stani je doslova narvane 21čkama. Jsou zde videt i 2 cisterny FAP a auto,kamion pravdepodobne jede smerem k vjezdu č.4. po male spojovaci ceste .
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Kdybi kamion jel dal dojel by k 4ce.Tady mame na fotce stav z roku 2008.
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Startujici 21čka z runwaye č. 2 .ta byla napojena na runway č. 5 ktera vedla z vjezdu č. 4.
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Runway č.3,v dalce vidime vjezd č. 1 a stani ktere bylo na fotkach predtim. Vedle človeka na fotce ce male stani ktere bylo kousek od napojeni na hlavni drahu č. 1.
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Tady mame fotku z galerije 352 sqn. ktera plnila funkci vzdušneho pruskumu nepratelskeho uzemi tak pruskum pocasi. Migi vjeli pres vjezd č.3 a jsou otoceny k vyjezdu č.4. Fotka je hodne znama a je pravdepodobne vyretušovana.
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Toto je uz o dost lepši fotka ,zde vime že je toto na jisto fotografovano vedle klimatizačni komory ktera se nacha pres cestu hlavniho ridiciho centra Željavi. Misto je v prostredku galerije 352 pruskumne sqn. a Migi mame otocene smerem k vyjezdu č.3.Za nimi v dalce se vidi zatacka do leva k vyjezdu č.4.
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Tito (v prvni rade s prava) krači s... ? Nevi nekdo kdo to je? Nachazeji se zrovna nekde v galeriji 352. sqn. Željava byla take neco jako narodni reklama.I kdyz byla prisne tajna chodili tam na navstevi cizi vojenske delegace. Vime presne o zahraničnich navštevach Činy,Iraku,Lybie,Švedska (pravdepodobne lidi kteri se menši časti podileli na archytekture Željavi,pred rokem 1965 byla YU. delegace ve Švedsku hledat inspiraci,a nasla ji :D ),spratelenich arabskych zemi. Prvne se šlo na prelet letište ze vzduchu.Pohled na 5 drah,velikou kasarnu a vse to zapracovano do terenu aby nebylo videt daval inpozanti pohled.Kdyz letadlo s delegaci pristalo,zastavilo na trijanglu a delegace prosla jednou galeriji bylo to k zblazneni. Slišel jsem ze irackou delegaci provedli kazdou galeriji 2x. Protož ruzne galerije byli propojrny dalo se jemi projit vselijak,a takova mensi delegace se najednou stratila ve spleti tych tunelku a galeriji. Byli fascinovani co dokaze pracovni sila Yugoslavije. Myslim ma to logiku,aji dnes se v Iraku nachazi spousta obrich bunkru ktere tam postavili jugoslavci.Tak ze reklamu Željava splnila na jedničku.Timto spusobem si prišla Yugoslavije na obri prijmi .
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Vjezd č.1. Slavnostni pochod,pravdepodobne rok 1973,ale proc maji ty zastarale MP-40,to mi neni jasne.S laskavim svolenim : zeljava-lybi.com
Utva 66,zaparkovana primo vedle vjezdu č.1. Vidime 21čku jak vyjizdi ven .Nadrze ktere jsou pred ni jsou pravdepodobne s chemikalijemi na zimu.(na upravu letištnich drah).S laskavim svolenim : zeljava-lybi.com
Železobetonove dvere v galeriji 125. sqn. Jak vidime snimek je z roku 1989.V rozmezi toho roku a roku 1991 nastalo nejvic fotek z Željavi. Nekteri lide kteri tam aktivne pracovali rikali ze koncem 1998 zacala byt na letisti citit neposlusnost,nekazen a zlom moralky.Bylo to dato vnitrnim napetim mezi yugoslavskymi narody.Armada byla udelana po tzv. narodnostnim kliči.Nespominam si v procentech kolik to bylo,ale hlavni a nejpocetnejši v armade byli srbi-pravoslavne verici,kolem pulky,potom byli chorvate a ješte min bylo bosencu muslimu.Potom za nemi bylo neco malo albancu. Jak umrel Tito ,umrela i snim veškera snaha jit dal a tahnout za jeden provaz. S laskavim svolenim : zeljava-lybi.com
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If we went the deliberations tunnel number 2 we already zminene intersection that deli, gallery 124.,125 sqn. and I rovneji so zvany VTR. VTR. (Vazduhoplovno Tehnička Radionica) was opravarenske center podzemniho complex. Here is repaired Migi 3 stupnich. VTR is I think nejviši galerije,on the length of the ma 75m. On his picture we have 21čku with tehdejši available vyzbroji in the JNA. From left galerije 124.sqn. The number 1 indicates, gallery 125. sqn. two are firefighters.The fire department had in vnitrk times pojizdna vozitka,just elektromobili. 3 is pomocna office and zbrojirna..
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Zde mame VTR. vyfocen polovinou 80tych let. Mohl bych rict ze to byla nejlepe chranena letecka opravna letadel v Evrope.Nad ni se nachazelo nekolik set metru skaly.
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Pan v saku,Dragutin Zelenović tehdejši člen predstavenstva Yugoslavije,vedle nej s prutem Rodoljub Gajič. Tehdejši velite VTR. Foceno roku 1989.
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VTR. roku 1969. Vzadu mame F-13tky v rodelanem stavu.
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Jedna ze stani :D
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I add a few more photos from different times, all of them should be either from Željavi or from the founding airport Udbina.
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Smaller plan of the object on the top of Gola Plješevica.
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I don't know of that is this period,but it was that day fun the Tractor is on stani so that the aircraft it was all outside and gagging for about pristani and departure dalših Mig. With laskavim svolenim : Željava-Lybi.com.
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A pair of runway views.
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Hotel Lyra, tento rok bohužel prázdný. Vedle něj je cesta z Ličko Petrovo selo na letiště.
Dakota každý rok strácí více a více dílů. Lidé si ji odnašejí domů, ale stala se určitě poutním místem.
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Tak Dakota se stala poutní ikonou .Jsem rád že vždy, když přijedeme na Željavu, najdeme tam ještě někoho z ČR :)
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Po čištění min se zde ukázali dávno zapomenutá místa, kde odpočívali technici během volného času.
Vjezd č. 1. nejbliž k mestu Bihac, nad kterým z důvodu ilegalního vniknutí do Chorvatska byl vykácen celý pruh lesu. Vypada to škaredě, ale lepši než k nám pouštět emigranty.
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Vratime se zas po nejake te dobe k vrcholu :D
Na fotce vidime z leva pristupovou cestu ,z leve strany je Chorvatsko.Forka byla porizena nekde od 8meho az do 4teho mesice soudici po snehu ktery se tam drzel a drzi vždy hodne dlouho. Je videt strecha domu a zničene plechove obali anten. Porizena byla kolem 200? A focena je možna aji civilnim obivatelstvem z televizniho prijmače chorvatske televize.
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Zde uz mame jarni fotku.Hned z leva je zaparkovane vozidlo Bison ktere melo slouzit k evakuaci členu kanadskeho IFOR-u a potom SFOR-u.Ale bezne se jinak zvalst nepouzivalo. Po skončeni valky jak uz jsem rekl vrch Gola Pljesevica zabiraji kanadane a buduji si tady (radio re-broadcasting site-RRB)... Operace kanadanu trvala od roku 95 az do roku 2004kdy to tam opustili . Od te doby to tam zni prazdnotou.
Jinak kanadane se tam menili po posadkach citajacich 5-6 mužu každych 6 mesicu.Meli tam kopelny,internet,satelitni tv,posilovnu a samozdrejme pracovni mistnosti odkud se vedla komunikace.
Jeden z prislusniku kanadskeho zboru. Krome toho operace kanadanu v Bosne mela jmeno Palladium.
Toto by mel byt tunel pod samotnou budovou do prostoru kde JNA vybudovala operacni stredisko take k spojovani.Z fotky je vydet ze to kanadaci ocistili a deminovali ale co tam bylo a jestli ty mistnosti hlupoko v hore take pouzivali pro stejne učeli jako JNA to si nejsem jisty. Vim jenom ze pod samotnym domem bylo stredisko spojeni ktere melo malou kuchyn,nemocnici a jidelnu s kuchyni.
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...a zima prišla... Tuneli ktere spojovali všechny hlavni mista ,treba mezi domem a prostory radarove obsluhy meli dvojty vyznam. Chranili posadku jak proti ucinkum jaderneho vybuchu tak proti zime.Jak sami vidite v zime tam bylo kolem 4m snehu v prumeru.Jidlo a jine zasobi se dostavovalo helikopterou ze zakladny v blizkosti mesta Bihač pokud to vitr dovoloval. Samotna cesta dolu byla nesjizdna i nekolik dnu. Zajimavosti je i to ze zde posadka mela 2 snežne skutry ktere slouzili na evakuaci a pro potrebi pruzkumu.Ale normalne se spiš v zime pouzivali k radovankam a k blbnuti. Take JNA mela 1 skutr ale ten byl v meste Titova Korenica,a pripade nutnosti se snim jezdilo nahoru. Jsou svedci ze tento doticni skut skoncil svou karyjeru na zakladne Kozara v Banja Luce jakosto hodne toho ze samotne Željavi.
Jedna z novejšich informaci ktera me take trochu prinutila napsat tento novejsi dil je to ze behem chorvatske operace "Oluja" 1995 (boure) se srbove stahuji v panyce z tohoto mista. Pokouseji se znicit posledni radar ktery pouzivaji do te doby hlavne k navadeni svych bitevnich letadel,z letiste uz 3 dlouhe roky nic neodstartovalo a zni prazdnotou. Chorvati behem sveho prichodu nachazeji radar jen mirne znicen jakozto i jine obekty ktere jeste do 95teho fungovali. To co zustalo si berou jako valecnou korist i kdyz toho uz moc neni,vetsinu si odvezla JNA a bosensti srbove do Banja Luky. Potom prichazeji jednotky IFOR a o tom jsme uz psali. Potvrzene to neni ale posledni dny z valky jsou jeste trochu v mlze a asi jeste dlouho zustanou. Neni lehke i po 20ti letech z lidi dostat nove informace.Valka je valka a nikomu se nani nespomina pekne.
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Foceno smerem od severu k jihu.Z leva je pod mraky schovan Bihač. Pred nama v pravo dum. Tato fotka je focena z mista kda je zakopana obri medena deska k "otchytu" hromu. Heliodrom je zavaty,jsou zde jen stopi od otacejiciho se auta.
Tady mame samotne mesto Bihač na bosenske strane .O par postu mame skoro stejnou fotku ale v lete kterou jsem fotil ja.
Jen pro predstavu jaka tam byla zima a vichr...
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Jo,je tam krasne,raj na zemi i kdyz je to zničene,to ja vim...
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Pouzivani heliodromu ...
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Jedna z kanadskych rotaci.
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A toto by melo byt 95teho roku. Tesne po konci valky dole na letišti. Spoust,vse zniceno...
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Jelikož tomu je uz 20 let jak byla znicena Željava srbskymi jednotkami JNA ,na Željave se koncem 5teho mesice sjeli nadšenci a par byvalich prislusniku co zde kdysi davno pracovali. Na oficijalni strance Željavi jsou nyni dostupne fotky z teto akce ozivovani starych spominek :
Je zde 7 perfektnich stranek z akce a jsou vyfoceny i obekty kolem.Krome cvičiste či telocvicni pro muštvo. Nejhorsi asi na tom vše je ze nejaka svine urizla z Dakoty vrtulovi list a dalsi se pokousel odriznout
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V dalce je vjezd 2ka.Na levo je nejdelši pristavaci draha 2ka,pred nami odletova draha č. 1. Dokud se letiste pouzivalo vse bylo vikaceno a byli zde jen travnate plochy.Jak je ted videt priroda si to pomalu ale jiste zase bere zpet. Po 20ti letech nefunkcnosti letiste tu jsou uz skoro doopravdy velke stromi i na mistech kde byla jen trava ...
Jeden ze zničenych generatoru . V podzemnim obektu byli pravdepodobne 3 generatory s vykonom kolem 1000KW. JNA je tady nechala protoze v dobe niceni uz byli zastarale a skoro 30 let slouzili . Tak ze bylo rozhodnuto je castecne rozebrat a explozivem znicit.
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Hello, everybody.
Just for interest 20.10.2012. is organized a tour of the airport Željava, the adjacent buildings, and the underground circuit itself. The visitors should be physically fit because of the longer time of walking underground and well dressed because of the cold and wind that prevails at the airport at that time. The ticket will cost 15 Euros. With you will be a former deminer and civilian worker of the airport Željava. Everything should be explained in English language. The 10th month was deliberately chosen because the airport at that time is generally colder and the vegetation is not so dense, so you can see a lot of things that escape the human eye. You will also get to all 3 planes on the gate and you would be in danger of human life because there are minefields around. (It would be worth mentioning that once there were 4 planes on the gate itself, originally DC-3 and 3 F-84s, one of them was stolen immediately after the war, the other 3 are in a state of decay.Well to see the original DC-3 in such a state today you would have to go to Belgrade or Russia at least ).
So who wants to see,and wants to be sure to enjoy it on 20.10. will have the opportunity.
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Profesionalni fotky jedne z navštev Ale toto bych fakt doporucil!
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Mig-21 R. Toto letadlo muzete videt v rakouskem Klagenfurtu jeste dnes. Je to nejlepe dochovany egzemplar Migu 21 z Željavi. Zde mame jeho snimek z roku 1972. Presne na snimku pise : "Mig-21R sa podvešenim kontejnerom R,na aerodromu Mostar za vreme vežbe Gora 1972 godine ". Coz znamena : Mig-21R s podvešenim kontejnerem R na letišti Mostar z dobi cvičeni "Gora" 1972. roku. S stejnim letadlem utekl pan Rudolf Perešin do Klagenfurtu. On a jeho 3 kolegove byli u zrozeni samostalneho chorvatskeho letectva.
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Fotka z roku 1992. Migi z pruzkumne 352.letky byli preletnuty z Bihače do Belehradu nebo presneji z letište Željava na letište Batajnica.Uz dostali take novejši yugoslavske znaky. Druha letka byla preletnuta do Prištiny gde byla podobna zakladna jako Željava,krycim jmenem Slatina. Zde vsak letka zustala jen kraci dobu.Skoro všechny letadla z Željavi byli pozdeji po vyletani resursu l. hodin rošrotovany nebo zniceny bombardovanim roku 98.Nektera byla rošrotovana take kvuli domluvam o stavu zbrani v Yugoslaviji.
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Jelikoz prvni co uvidite z Željavi budou 3 letadla, vkladam sem jednu velice starou fotku. Je na ni jeden muj kamarad s kolegou za valky v Bosne. Nebudu odkryvat co a jak,ale jen pro jistotu aby jste videli jak to tam vypadalo nekde kolem roku 1995.
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Ješte par pohledu na stav letadel u brany z minulich roku.
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Na fotce mame par Migu 21bis (myslim-nejsem si scela jisty). Letadla behem cvičeni a zaučovani posadek často dene promenila aji 4 letišta. Zde jsou Migi na letišti Zadar,a priletli z Željavi.Pak treba leteli do Puli a zpatki na Batajnicu pobliž Belehradu. To se delo i nekolikrat v mesici.Jen proto aby si posadky rychle zvikli na presuny a samotna letišta. Vojenske plany byvale JNA dokud byl Tito živ byli vždy obrane. Jednotky by utočili a postupne se srahovali do hor v Bosne kde by probehla partizanska valka.
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Jedna perfektni fotka vchodu č.2. Toto bylo par let pred valkou. Zde je automobil Zastava tzv. "Žehlička" :D v roli MP. a jeden prislušnik vojenske policije . Ale aby to nevipadalo tak nebespecne v tom aute se hlavne na rychlo prevazelo jidlo a piti :D kdyz zrovna nebyl cas pauzi. Jezdili snim skoro všichni kdo ktomu meli pravomoce. K patrolovani se jinak pouzivali jen lide bez aut, hlidky byli kolem letište v jednotlivich mystech a samotne letiste uz pred valkou bylo castecne kolem zaminovano z bespscnostnich duvodu. Stranou nad letistem ,mezi letistem a radarem byli take rozmistene hlidky a bylo zde nekolik psovodu ze psy. Zvalst byli hranene "stany". To byli šachty vetrani kterych balo myslim 5. Na jejim samotnem konci byli metr a neco kluste betonove zdi ve tvaru obicejneho stanu . Zde se stridali hlidky a samotna mysta byla bud zaminovana nebo obehnana ostnatymi draty.
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Standardni Gazela vyrabena v Mostaru. Foceno z balkonu ridici veže...
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Popojedem ?
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Moc pekny obrazek jedne z mistnosti ve vnitr obektu Klek. Tady aspon vydime puvodni cesty prijezdu k letisti .Dnes egzistuji jen 2. Ostatni jsou zniceny nebo zaminovany a na konci z bosenske strany je statni hranice tak ze slepa ulicka :D
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Poznamka:
Vsimnete si hornateho vystupku ktery se tahne na mape pod letistem. Letiste je blizko Bihače ale diky nerovnosti terenu a diky tomuto vystupku i kdyz jste celkove blizko letiste neni nikdy videt. Co se tice mista na kterem bylo postaveno je opravdu mistrovsky vybrano. Zraku civilistu unikalo desetiletimi.
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Zase se nasla "112"ka. Fotka je take z Mostaru. Mig 21R , 352. pruzkumna letka ,domovske letište Željava.
Dalši z Mostaru.
A tady uz ji mame doma na Željave . Fotka je trošku poničena ale aspon to lip nez nic.
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Hadejte gde se tito piloti uči ? :D Kdo se dobre podiva na fotku uvidi tam kontrolni vež s balkonem.Tak to sem našel opravdu jen nahodou...
Tak tady uz mame obrazek behem kontroli na Željave. Visoci generalove sedi na balkone pred kontrolni veži a pozoruji prubeh akce .
Stav dnes...
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Standard Gazelle vyrabena in Mostar. Taken from the balcony of the control tower...
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Stejne misto foceni.
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Zajimava fotka. Typnul bych to na 21čky ktery se vratili a stoji pred vjezdem č.4. Nikde kolem nejsou zadne jine mašini,ani kamiony.Nic coz by bylo charakterystycke pro 4.ku. 21čky sletli a dorulovali ke 4ce. Zde je prebira obsluha a pripoji na ne tice. Traktory ktere byli pouzivany venku k prevozu Migu tady nejsou,jen elektromobil.Zadne cisterny,nic. Elektromobili je vtahnou dovnitr a dvere se zaviraji. Mise konči,čas obsluhy začina. Kdybi to byvala 2ka kde se taky vetšinou tahali Migi dovnitr tak by tam byla aspon nejaka budova nebo neco ale tady na fotce neni nic.
Prohlidka Mig-21US -400 Jedna z mnohych, o opravach uz jsem psal predtim kde se delali a jak.
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Dalši fotky tentokrat hlavne z obektu kolem letište .Na fotkach jsou videt betonove stany s dirami do podzemi. To jsou vstupi vzuchu do filtračnich komor. Pak jsou vyfoceny anteny a obekty obsluhy anten ILS sistemu .
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Z dob v provozu...
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Ty samopaly by nemusely byt nemecke MP-40, ale jugoslavsky model 56, zda se, ze vojaci maji spodni cast dlane vytocenou dopredu, jako by svirali zahnuty zasobnik.
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diky frenki za uzasne fotky a hlavne komentare k nim! Pridam jen aktualni letosni info ohledne Zeljavy - v unoru skoncila deminezace, kterou zaplatila EU ve spolupraci s Chorvatskem, prostor by tedy mel byt cisty. Letos jsme se tam nedostali kvuli nejakym pracem v tunelech, nevim, co tam delali, treba nekdo ozrejmi. Prostor je jinak z HR strany pristupny celkem bez problemu.
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Ahojte výborny članok a najlepšie informacie čo som našiel k Željave o letisku mi prvý krát rozpraval v 2015 majitel kempu blizko Mostaru a konečne tento rok (2018) som sa nan dostal osobne bohužial Dakota už nesie velke známky poškodenia, 2.brana je uzavreta čo som zistil od miestnych uzavreli to chorvati po tom čo tam mazda natačala reklamu (da sa najst na youtube) pri 1.stala policia ale bez problemov nas pustili dovnutra okolie je už dost zarastene a napriklad 3.brana je už skoro uplne skryta v poraste .....ak budem na PC môžem prihodit aj nejaké aktualne foto.
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