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Citace - MacArthur :
Ničím.Armádu České Republiky bych zrušil,je to akorát bezedná jáma do které se sypou nemalé peníze které jsou potřeba jinde.Co armádní zakázka to jeden velký skandál pramizercé hospodaření jako celek.
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Citace - karaco :
no, aranai se jako vždy rozjel a jako vždy o svých nápadech nechce diskutovat, budiž...
Citace :
nevím na co tanky, jejich smysl mi v čechách uniká...ALCA, respektive Plamen dozrává a vypadá to, že to nebude zase tak velký propadák, s tou ráží 5,56 bych až tak nesouhlasil, i amíci zavedli novou ráži- 6,8mm, a co bys nakoupil? hoď nějaký svůj tip- třeba u kulometu by mně to zajímalo...
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Citace - dav :
Vážení já vám nevím ale není tohle téma z oboru what if....
Jinak Aranail děkuji za to že jsi mě označil za neschopného rozkrádače vojenských skladů - s kolika vojáky AČR jsi v životě přišel dostyku že si dovoluješ tohle tvrdit ?
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Citace - karaco :
ještě k určení armády- měla by být malá, moderní a mobilní, předpokládá se její nasazování v konfliktech v cizích zemích, s tím, že armáda by tam měla plnit funkce od logistických, strážních, pořádkových až po letecké krytí...pro strážní službu v ČR se používá nebo bude používat snad výhradně VP.....jediné dilema mám v tom, že hledáme něco vhodnějšího než 58, ale třeba švédům se náš samopal zdál sympaticky malý a lehký (mají AK5-FN FNC, nějakých 1008mm a 3,9kg) jak by tedy měla ta zbraň vypadat? co říkáte na bull-pupy?
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Citace - Aranai :
...tango nosí so sebou aj granáty a niekedy aj výbušniny. Stávalo sa že ho iba zranili, pribehli k nemu ošetrovatelia, alebo niekto iný a tango sa odpálil výbušninou alebo granátom...
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Citace :
"tango" je z morzeovky pre písmeno "T", ako "terorist",
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Citace - buko1 :
Nie je to síce k tématu ale:Citace :
"tango" je z morzeovky pre písmeno "T", ako "terorist",
aranai: "tango" nie je z morzeovky ale je to výraz vojenskej angličtiny pre písmeno "T" pre lepšie rozoznávanie hlások pri rádiovej a telefonickej komunikácii.
Presne to isté, čo bolo kedysi zavedené aj u nás a na staršej spojovacej technike sú ešte vygravírované slová pre jednotlivé hlásky. Bohužiaľ aj naša armáda prešla na označovanie hlások v tomto štýle - alpha, bravo, charlie, delta, echo, foxtrot, golf, hotel, india, juliet, kilo, lima, mike, oscar, tango, uniform, victor, zero,......
Prepáčte za prerušenie. Inak si myslím že prezbrojenie ručných zbraní je vecou až za minimálne 10 rokov a vtedy už možno budeme vyzbrojení lasermi
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Citace - aranai :
Bože môj, ja som dnes v hlave úplne povysávaný . Takúto **** som už pekne dlho nenapísal. Chcel som napísať rádiový kód a napísal som morzeovka. Už mi úplne šibe. A blbé na tom je to, že to vlastne s morzeovkou ani nijako nesúvysí. Morzeovka pozná písmeno T a tým to končí, žiadne tango ani nič podobné s tým nijako nesúvysí. A to som sa snažil povedať aj tým VC ,s morzeovkou to samozrejme nesúvysí. Bože, idem radšej robiť niečo iné, očividne som úplne mimo a neriskujem že za pol hodinu napíšem že 5,56 je dĺžka hlavne M16 v palcoch.
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Citace - Bitaxe :
domácí zbraně by byly určitě o dost držší než zahraniční (malý počet pro naší armádu a mizivá šance na vývoz to určuje předem)
Citace - Bitaxe :
nemáš jistotu že po letech vývoje dostaneš solidní zbraň. To je právě to co mne od domácí produkce odrazuje
Citace - Bitaxe :
snad jen s vyjímkou přestavby osmapadesátky na malou ráži
Citace - Bitaxe :
LADA není řešení je stavěna na AK které nemáme a nakupovat je k přestavbě na zbraň o níž lze pochybovat že bude úspěšná není moc rozumné
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Citace - wade :
Bohužiaľ nie je to ani rádiový kód.... je to fonetická abeceda používaná pre lepšiu zrozumiteľnosť pri rádiovej prevádzke....
rozmýšlam potom píšem - platí to aj pre tebou uvedenú org. štruktúru (teraz nemyslím jej zaradenie tu ale jej prinajmenšom podivný obsah)
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Citace - karaco :
souhlasím s bitaxem, než něco vyvíjet s nejistým výsledkem a následným prodejem, je lepší nakoupit osvědčené věci...s těmi českými zbraněmi- myslím že české pistole, jsou vpodstatě jen kopie nebo nepodařené domácí produkty (75 je taky jen taková skládačka), poslední slušný kulomet byla 37, zajímavé byly pušky a samopaly, no a místo 58 bych klidně pobíhal s kalachem
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Citace - karaco :
samozřejmě zavádět kalacha je nesmysl, to bychom si v dnešní době nepomohli, ale v těch 50.letech jsme ho zavést měli....dneska bych bral i M16, FN FNC,G36,STEYR AUG- ostatně, možná by nebyla špatná ani 58 v 5,56x45...až budu mít čas, předělám 58 do bullpupu
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Citace - aranai :
4 brigády po 3000 mužoch z toho :
3 pešie :
3 prápory, dva motorizované ( nákladiaky ), jeden obrnený ( osemkolesové OT ) + podporná rota osemkolesové OT : 10% mínomet, 20 % 30mm automatika, 10% spojovacie, 50% 105mm tankové delo.
Zbrane pechoty : G36 alebo SIG550, 9mm Glock, MG3 (MG42), 10% pechoty ľahké AT (LAW), 10% ťažké PTRS, 5% Ľahké PLRS, 5% mínomety.
1 tanková brigáda : 3 práropy. 120 tankov LEO2, Ďalej rota pechoty v osemkolesových OT a čata samohybného delostrelectva a Pl delostrelectva.
1 rota PLRS na podvozkoch OT osemkoliek
1 ženijná rota na osemkolkách OT
žiadne BVP, žiadne stacionárne PL rakety, žiadne ťažké alebo poľné delostrelectvo.
Dúfam že o tom čo osm napísal nebudeme diskutovať. Nechcem a ani nebudem. Je to návrh presne teký, ako je požadovaná v nadpise a ja ho nebudem obhajovať, len ho uvediem na zamyslenie....
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Citace - bitaxe :
držte se prosím tématu nejde o to vytvořit strukturu
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Citace - Raiven :
to karaco Samozřejmostí by bylo že by MP 5 nebyl jedinou zbraní podporu by jim zajišťovali švýcarské SG 550 a odstřelovací SG 551 SWAT a možná nějaké HK33 E
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Citace - aranai :
4 brigády po 3000 mužoch z toho :
3 pešie :
3 prápory, dva motorizované ( nákladiaky ), jeden obrnený ( osemkolesové OT ) + podporná rota osemkolesové OT : 10% mínomet, 20 % 30mm automatika, 10% spojovacie, 50% 105mm tankové delo.
Zbrane pechoty : G36 alebo SIG550, 9mm Glock, MG3 (MG42), 10% pechoty ľahké AT (LAW), 10% ťažké PTRS, 5% Ľahké PLRS, 5% mínomety.
1 tanková brigáda : 3 práropy. 120 tankov LEO2, Ďalej rota pechoty v osemkolesových OT a čata samohybného delostrelectva a Pl delostrelectva.
1 rota PLRS na podvozkoch OT osemkoliek
1 ženijná rota na osemkolkách OT
žiadne BVP, žiadne stacionárne PL rakety, žiadne ťažké alebo poľné delostrelectvo.
Dúfam že o tom čo osm napísal nebudeme diskutovať. Nechcem a ani nebudem. Je to návrh presne teký, ako je požadovaná v nadpise a ja ho nebudem obhajovať, len ho uvediem na zamyslenie....
Ta struktura ktoru si nacrtol, je tvorena pre Cesku republiku, alebo Slovensku republiku???
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aranai: Základom je intenzívny výcvik, veľmi intenzívny, a najmodernejšie a najsilnejšie pechotné AT a PL zbrane. Maximalizovať údernú silu pechoty a osttané veci ak odelostrelectvo alebo letectvo odpíliť úplne
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Citace - buko1 :
A k tomu prezbrojeniu - myslím že prezbrojenie armády závisí aj na budúcich úlohách - teda čo má vlastne armáda robiť a na aké úlohy je pripravovaná. Myslím že je zbytočné prezbrojovať armádu na super moderné útočné pušky s vysokou kadenciou a neviem čím ešte, keď úloha armády v rámci NATO je postanovená na úlohách ženijného zabezpečenia a RCHBO (to je prípad napr. Slovenska, neviem ako je na tom Česko), keď nasadení príslušníci sú v podstate v tylovom priestore a potrebujú zbrane len na prípadnú vlastnú obranu a nie na vedenie bojovej činnosti v prednej línii, takže potrebujú niečo ľahké, čo nebráni plneniu špeciálnych úloh (napr. niečo ako Sa-61)
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Citace - aranai :
buko- to je tvoj názor, môj je iný. Musíš si uvedomiť že v akomkoľvek konflikte, ktorý by sa v našom priestore odohral sme mi tá malá a slabá strana, takže všetko naše letectvo, tanky aj delostrelectvo, proste všetko čo nepriateľ objaví pôjde do trubiek v priebehu pár hodín. Musíš pechotu naučiť bojovať bez delostrelectva a tankovej podpory a aj to sa dá.
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